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June 11, 2008

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Hey Jim, I think everyone associated with the term is feeling similar.

But it's neither the start, nor the end -- we're in the middle I think. Edupunk really just put a name to what a group of people have been talking about for years now. I jumped on the term because I thought it was catchy and had some meat to it, and you can get your ideas out to more people with a tool like that.

Here's what I learned from the process.

1) For a group of people that are about web 2.0 engagement, we are incredibly insular. Just following trackbacks I discovered so many pockets of like-minded people who despite the magic of google and RSS I just didn't know about.

2) By the same token, the view of so many people in the profession is *so* far back -- the idea that edtech discussions always had political implications struck some as a *radical* concept.

My takeaway is we have to do more -- we're such doers in building tech stuff, but in pushing our thought to a broader audience I feel like we are disengaged, as if activism is beneath us. We need to bring the DIY spirit to the propaganda war as well.

In that effort, "edupunk" *is* the start. It's the start, I hope, of us taking a more active role in getting this message out -- or even getting the simple concerns we have an airing befitting their importance.

I've got some ideas in this that I'd love to share with you -- you shoould have my email off this post, email me and we'll talk.

Amazng post.

I couldn't agree with you more, and I'm a bit hesitant to lay out a framwork given the reaction to EDUPUNk was so veisceral for many, and so tied to an essential logic of what punk "really" is, I do have to say that the issues you mention here, such as the production model for learning, the corporate violence of organizations like the RIAA, MPAA, MediaDefender, etc., suggest for me that what was raised has some validity (despite any one term, name or label), and is important.

At the same time, like the example of "Howl" and "Naked Lunch," as battle cries---there has to be a creative movement premised on people's willingess to experiment and have fun. And there has to be communal support. I really good correlation to what you are saying here is a site Tony Hirst linked to on twitter talking about scenius (or collective genius): http://www.kk.org/thetechnium/archives/2008/06/scenius_or_comm.php

Check that out.

So while I could live whithout the term, i think the spirit your posts frames o beautifully is what is really at stake, and it is the very things that a meme like EDUPUNK (despite its potential generative power for the imagination) may ultimately preclude. I, like you, hope it doesn't entirely, or at least the spirit you trace here is what we push towards, leaving the term well behind us.

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  • "The hallmark of revolution is that the goals of the revolutionaries cannot be contained by the institutional structure of the society they live in. As a result, either the revolutionaries are put down, or some of those institutions are transmogrified, replaced, or simply destroyed. We are plainly witnessing a restructuring of the music and newspaper businesses, but their suffering isn’t unique, it’s prophetic." --Clay Shirky

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